Beyond the Rainbow: Sustaining the Spirit of Pride Year-Round
Hey, everyone. Welcome to another episode of Grits and Glitter. I am Rev Skip Jennings.
Terry:I am Terry Dyer. What up, y'all?
Skip:Happy pride.
Terry:Happy for well, I mean, it's it's basically June 1st. Right? Like Yeah.
Skip:I mean, on this one, when this when this goes out, it will be due.
Terry:That's true.
Skip:That's true.
Terry:Well, happy pride. You know, it's my favorite month
Skip:of the year. So why?
Terry:Well, somebody was born in the summer month, honey. You. Exactly. Gemini.
Skip:I'm Gemini, Cancer. But you have you have a major blessing because you Juneteenth. So you were black and fabulous.
Terry:As we've been saying, we are black, black, black, black
Skip:and black and fabulous. I love what's going on, man.
Terry:Oh, man. It's been a whirlwind of the last couple of weeks. How about you?
Skip:Tired? Are you tired?
Terry:Beyond. You can't see the you can't see the shot.
Skip:She looking real rough. Rough.
Terry:Right now. I've been
Skip:watching how you live in on, the the the gram.
Terry:Yes. Yes.
Skip:She's been all over the place. I I can't I can't tell your business out there. I won't put your business out there. I mean, tell us this already.
Terry:There's a book out there. It's open.
Skip:This this week leading up to pride, this has been extraordinary for you. Tell our listeners how's it been extraordinary.
Terry:Oh my gosh. In every you know how we talk about manifestation, and really just put positivity and light and love out there in the world, then things will come back to us in the same form. Truly believe that that is happening right now. You know, I just, returned from a little mini few day vacation in New York. We had a little, you know, kind of cameo on the, Sherry Shepherd television show.
Skip:Did. Yes. She did. Yes. All day live, brother.
Terry:Yes. Right? So much. And, unfortunately, you know, viewers will not get to see this part, but during the taping of the show, they handed me the microphone sitting in the front row, and I sang, Sang to the Sherry Shepherd.
Skip:What'd you sing? What'd you sing?
Terry:You know they have a DJ. So the DJ was playing. When I tell you moment we walked into the studio to the moment we left. DJ Suss 1, shout out, is no show. He was playing old school R and B mixed with new school.
Terry:There was Whitney, there was Mariah, there was, earth, wind, and fire. There was all kinds of stuff he was playing. So when they handed me the mic, there was a mix of Whitney Houston playing.
Skip:So Oh, my god. That is phenomenal.
Terry:Yeah. It was incredible. Effort.
Skip:Oh my god. Yeah. My favorite part is when she comes to this hot family. Hey, Sherry. Did you say that?
Skip:Hey, Sherry. Did you go Okay. So here's what's funny.
Terry:There's the moment after she said that on the table, and I don't know if you watched the watched the show yet, but, there is a moment where the camera comes to the I'm right there.
Skip:I know. I saw you. I saw you. I saw you. Wait.
Terry:Can I so this afternoon, I was at the gym and Yeah? I'm in the locker room putting the bag away and a gentleman comes in. He goes, Terry,
Skip:I know were you on the Sherry Shepherd Shop? And it and it begins.
Terry:Yes. Yes.
Skip:It begins.
Terry:Oh my.
Skip:It was amazing. It was amazing. So awesome. And then I saw pictures of you on a yacht?
Terry:A yacht? Me on a yacht? No.
Skip:Were you on a yacht? Were you not on a yacht? Instagram.
Terry:There did you see that there was a there is a picture that's pinned to my Instagram where, last year, I was asked to do a big huge campaign for Right. Marriott Bon Voyage, experience.
Skip:Oh, Lord.
Terry:Yeah. So that's on there. That's on there. But what I think is probably one of the most amazing pieces of work and projects I've ever been a part of. Shout out to, 66 Films and Yeah.
Terry:Who's local to South Florida and, Hollywood Arts and Culture Center oh my gosh, it debuted on South Florida PBS this past week as well. So things are just moving and shaking, and so many people have watched it. So many people have reached out and, oh, my gosh. And this is so phenomenal and and heart wrenching and gut wrenching and all that type of stuff. So it's been an insanely crazy amazing last couple of weeks.
Skip:Oh my goodness. That is powerful, and congratulations on all your success. And when I I text you the morning after you were in the opera, I saw go to his Instagram. Y'all see him on the opera. I am the opera.
Skip:And he was the only person there that looks so incredibly queer, black, and fabulous. He has this black jacket with no shirt on, and it was cut to the tee. You look so good. I said, oh, I said, oh, shit. There he is.
Terry:Right. There
Skip:he is. Right. There's the grits and glitter. What I
Terry:love what I love but it is literally one of my favorite pieces that I own, and it was specifically it's custom. It was made for me and tailored to my body, which is, amazing. Right? What I love is people see the front and it's elegant and sophisticated and classy, and then there's party in the back. You turn around and the tuxedo is cut out.
Terry:So you
Skip:get to see
Terry:all of my back.
Skip:Yeah. Love it. Yeah. So so, you know, part of this I'm writing this book on how do you thrive, 10 steps of thriving from 50, you know, older, and I'm bracing 60. I know I have a good for anybody who's 40 trust.
Skip:But people ask me, how do you do this? And I said, well, you know, self love is key. When you are hitting at 50, you have to really push forward in self love and loving yourself. What is your confidence marker for you to wear something like that? Because, I mean, not all of us can wear incredible clothes like that, but you look so good.
Skip:And I saw you in a fashion show last night. You were strutting. What is this confidence and this self of self love that comes out in you when you're doing these things?
Terry:I think for me, and and anyone who has read my book, understands where I come from. I grew up as one of those people that although I, you know, had successes growing up where I was in sports and, you know, music as a kid and all these other things, I was not comfortable being in my own skin. I we were taught, right, in society as a whole that black isn't always beautiful or a certain type of black is the only black that's beautiful. And so I am one of those those kids, one of those people that grew up looking in the mirror thinking, why does my nose look like this? Why do my ears look like this?
Terry:Why does everyone say that, or not like me because I look different than they do or my skin color's different. Right? I grew up in predominantly white neighborhoods. Right? So not being around on a regular basis, people that looked and talked and spoke like me and acted like me, all these other things.
Terry:Right? It it it plays on the self confidence. It plays on the self worth. It plays on the awareness to your culture and understanding that. Right?
Terry:So I've done a lot of self work on finally being comfortable in my own skin to where can you can't abide and tell me shit now? Right? Like, I don't like, it is what it is. Right? You don't like it?
Terry:Turn your head. You don't you don't wanna see it, don't look at the Instagram. Right? Like, I because what I realized is that there are other people watching. There are other younger generations and other young folks that see you, and they they may say, if he can, I can?
Terry:There's representation in how I feel and how I wanna express myself, and there's someone who looks like me or came from where I came from. And if he can do it, so can I? So that's where that confidence comes from.
Skip:My brother, you are doing it, and, thank you for being out there and doing what you do because, you know, exactly. I I love it. And it it gives us permission to live our very best life. So congratulations on your success.
Terry:Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
Terry:Alright. So what's going on with you, miss Pat?
Skip:Not even that close to being as exciting as you are, but, you know, I you know, my whole life right now is in the middle of this transition, but what I am doing is because I really believe in the the the the family network. I believe in your families, your family being, with your family, your chosen family, and and not your chosen family and and your blood family. So I've been actually traveling home. You're in news New New York. I was in New Jersey.
Skip:So I was wondering if your mother's celebrating her 91st birthday. And did you see her on Facebook? Do you see her on Instagram? Honey, she
Terry:did not look 91. Did not. She had on that hat?
Skip:The hat with the glasses. A shirt. Yeah. A glass of
Terry:play at church.
Skip:Church lady. She is absolutely considered church mama, and we are in church. And and, you know, oh oh, so check this out. Pastor Days, I love him. He knows I'm a minister, and and we you know, he's he's a really good good guide, solid guide because I know a lot of Baptist ministers that don't you know, they they know who I am and whatever.
Skip:So that's another that's another show. Anyway, so from the ball pit, he he says, and I think that's your son there. You'd shout out my mother 91st birthday, and she stood up and clapped. And everyone's like, happy birthday, and they sang happy my brother is the music minister there. So he played happy birthday, and the choir sang we sang.
Skip:It was great. My niece and my my sister-in-law next to my mom. So we sing it all in harmony because we grew up singing in churches and all that. And then the pastor dates went, and I thought that was you up in the gym, pointing to me. And he says, you were working hard, and And I didn't wanna come up and say hi to you because you can't roll up on people like that anymore.
Skip:You're working really hard. You're working hard like you from the West Coast, and I would say, thank you. That's right. I because I don't take time off, and I make sure that mom knows, oh, you're getting up at 5:30. You must be going to the gym.
Skip:I am, mom. I'll see you in the morning. But I love that. It was Memorial Day, celeb I'm not saying celebration. I'm saying commemoration.
Skip:Memorial Day because people died, you know, in the midst of war, and that's what we're remembering. So Right. My mom's birthday is part of that, you know, time. So we have, you know, the barbecue, and we did all that. And my, plant based diet kinda went out the door.
Skip:So I was eating stuff that I had eaten a lot. I know.
Terry:Diet. She
Skip:she had no diet.
Terry:Y'all heard it here first.
Skip:I had subs. I had barbecue. Okay. I had barbecue chicken. It was just mama they cooked mama like 3 different cakes.
Skip:I had cake after cake after cake. You know what's really you know what's cool about this? Did not gain a pound. Oh. And we just remember the health and fitness episode, last episode that just dropped, we talked about preparing yourself.
Skip:If you do the work leading up to these special holidays, hello.
Terry:That's right.
Skip:And so I was like, I was good. And I got up every morning, did my gym, not a day I didn't miss a day at the gym. And, so it was it was wonderful. I mean, going home and being around my family, and, of course, you know, we do have barbecues. They gotta bring out the cards and those conversations.
Skip:Yes. Those conversations. Now there is and you know me. I went I went fighting because I'm part I'm part of Beyhive. I went fighting.
Skip:Half of them love Beyonce's album. The other half doesn't. I'm going, oh, this is gonna be the conversation. This is the conversation for a lot of barbecues. Beyonce, country Carter, and my little niece.
Skip:Yeah. I thought she was like, oh, I love it. She's like, I can't get with that, uncle Skip. I'm going. She says it's not like renaissance where you can sit down, listen the whole thing and when.
Skip:But it's so important. She goes, I don't care. And so but check this out. Shay traveled from New Jersey to Houston to see the Renaissance concert. And she yes.
Skip:She I mean, she loves Beyonce that much. She's not liking the album. She she likes it. She's like, some songs are okay, but it's not a sit down listen to the whole thing. And you know them fighting words for me.
Skip:You talking about
Terry:What's what's your niece's name again? What's what's your niece's name again? Shay. Shay. Girl, we Shay, you watching?
Terry:Girl, we right here. We right here.
Skip:Listen. Listen. Listen. Your uncle.
Terry:We don't see eye to eye.
Skip:Listen. Listen. See each other. That ain't right.
Terry:This subject.
Skip:That ain't right. But I gotta tell you, I realize how traditions and cultures. We have our traditions and cultures. You have those conversations. You can disagree, and you can be very passionate about it and love each other.
Skip:You can play the bar, eat barbecue. That's how we do. And you can't call it a picnic. You know why you can't call it a picnic.
Terry:Well, I can think of many reasons why you can't call it a picnic, but I will refrain until we, since the audience believes and trusts in us.
Skip:I'll tell them. Maybe I won't. But I'll tell them, you can't call the do not call your gatherings a picnic anymore. Look it up. Google it.
Terry:Ask your mama.
Skip:Ask your mama. Oh my god. Alright. We got a a big did you know?
Terry:It's it's pride. It's pride. So we gotta talk about, you know, the amazingness of of what's coming up this month. So let's hit it. Let's hit it.
Skip:So so what's your what's your did you know?
Terry:So my did you know is and everybody should
Skip:know should know him up.
Terry:What just happened. Oh, you said it. Lock him up. Lock him up. So alright.
Terry:So as we all probably know, former president Donald Trump was convicted on all 34 charges. All 34 charge charges. So let me ask a very, very, very poignant question. Do you truly believe that this these convictions make any difference with respects to him running and potentially winning?
Skip:I think it will make a difference in 2 different ways. Those who are hardcore Trumpers, this the the the Trumpian, Republican Party, they're going hard to support him. And that's gonna bring people that are out, that are, like, on the fence and going, yeah. I kinda like Trump and and his rhetoric, and they're they're gonna come. And I also believe there's another group of people that are undecided, that who are liberal and who are independent.
Skip:They're going, well, this fool, he might not go to jail. But I'm gonna be telling you honest truth, he's a felon. He's a criminal, and you cannot deny his criminal activity.
Terry:I agree. But here's so I know. Don't get mad at us. We just, you know, laying it all out on the line.
Skip:Just talking.
Terry:We just cry.
Skip:We're just
Terry:walking. But here's my here's my next question to you with to exactly what you just said as with him now being a a convicted felon, right, or felon or however you you you wanna say or however it's Someone you know, said is felon.
Skip:So he's a felon. He's a felon.
Terry:So do you oh, I got so many questions.
Skip:This is our conversation, Reese. This is what I did you know. I got so many questions.
Terry:So considering that what you just said with respects to people coming out and supporting him, in droves now. Right? Like, they because they think it's a conspiracy, and he's on the news saying, oh, this, that judge had it in for him and blah blah blah blah blah. Right? Do you think that America as a whole entity will say yes to putting a convicted felon into office?
Skip:I I I believe it because, remember, he was he was a he was a criminal when he got elected the first time. The first time. The first time. Here here's here's the point that I I think we really could have a very deep conversation. Those who regretted him going in office the first time, will they flip back over to support?
Skip:You might not like Biden. Trust me. Not a lot of people do like Biden, but do you want someone who is in the office that you might think that, okay. He might not be the sharpest knife in the bunch, but he's not a criminal. Correct.
Skip:Or or how you know, or or, you know, listen. I really believe that this is a great conversation that we're gonna have for the next 6 months, 6, 7 months.
Terry:Great. It's important conversation. Yeah.
Skip:It's a very important conversation. Here's my question to you. Do you think the Biden campaign are I have not even heard them say anything about this.
Terry:He was on today.
Skip:He was on he on today? It was yeah.
Terry:It was up to Jim, and and I saw the the headlines with he him speaking out. And I don't know what
Skip:he said. Of course, that was
Terry:the Jim. But, he did come out and say make a statement, about, the guilty charges. Here's my another follow-up. Right?
Skip:Right.
Terry:Let's call a spade a spade. If this was Obama, first of all, let's be real, or a black man, a person of color, a woman getting convicted like this, do you truly believe that they would be getting the graces, if you will, that this man is getting?
Skip:No. Here's and this is I love that you brought this up because, yeah, if it was Obama, he'd be under the jail right now. That wouldn't be there would there'll be no waiting. They would have dropped in. Here's the thing, and I love what Joy Reid said on MSNBC on the readout.
Skip:She said that he was hardcore locked up the exonerated 5 from the, from from from from Yes. From Central Park. Yes. That were innocent. He was like, let's execute them.
Skip:He was so hardcore. Like, the the police should not ever be, you know, reprimanded for hardcore activities. He was like, lock her up the champ. Lock her up came from him. He was so hardcore.
Skip:Now he's using another strategy to say that, oh, and this is unjust and the people the people have gone after, after people like this unjustly. And he's like, he's taking on the plight of black and brown people that we've been talking about forever, and now he's using it Correct. Oh, don't let me start on this. He's using the and I I believe in the great thing that we have right now is that we know for a fact that everything was above board. They did everything right.
Skip:They waited. The prosecutor waited. The prosecutor said, we're not going into this battle until we have everything lined up.
Terry:That's right. So And I remember that
Skip:months ago. I remember
Terry:that conversation months ago, from the prosecutor, and people were saying, why? Why? You've got this. No. Make sure that you're you've dot your i's, you cross your t's because if you're gonna swing, right, you have to hit this home run.
Terry:You can't swing and miss because
Skip:this is gonna come back
Terry:and bite all of us in the butt. Right? So I I think it was smart. I I love the fact, obviously, that he was convicted of all these things, and it's clearly on record now.
Skip:Yes. It's on record now. And Right. People are saying that he he probably won't go to jail for this. Of course.
Skip:And
Terry:that's one thing I think they won't do. They're not gonna put him in jail. Right?
Skip:But if it was a black man, he would have been going to do and he would been going to jail on the sentencing day. And he is being sentenced on July 11th, and he's trying to get out of that now because
Terry:Of course.
Skip:Because of the convention. So I think they should just put his ass in jail for 30 days that he cannot be at the convention. And if you wanna do a broadcast from the jailhouse, show your ass from the jailhouse behind bars because Martin Luther King had to go to jail. They got Martin Luther King in in jail.
Terry:Hello?
Skip:Okay. I'm just saying. And I I believe he went to jail during the democratic convention in the sixties or
Terry:60s.
Skip:Something. And and so, yeah, we'll put his ass in jail for the for the convention of the the Republican convention, and this is the last thing. I'm so heated right now. I'm so heated. This is the last thing.
Skip:Them stupid ass sweep. Oh, we gotta get a e e rating because I'm We are
Terry:gonna get a e rating.
Skip:Good stupid ass Republicans who stand up for him like Ted Cruz. Donald Trump went after your your daddy said that you you killed
Terry:Right.
Skip:JFK.
Terry:Right.
Skip:Talked about how ugly your wife was, and you're going to how much do you have to get screwed up the butt without Vaseline? I'm just saying.
Terry:What about Vaseline? She said Vaseline. Oh, the old school. Old
Skip:school. You know, they got a thing
Terry:called Lou now. Right?
Skip:Marco little Marco Rubio, our our senator.
Terry:Right.
Skip:He's like, oh, this is an injustice. Shut up, little Marco. He just he it's like, oh. Yeah.
Terry:Oh. No. What is it? Let me not stop. I'm like, what is it?
Terry:A justice is y'all crooked and and corrupt ways. That's what's an injustice. Right? I know. Let's be real.
Skip:I know. Let's be real. Y'all. We we we got to have another big did you know we got to change?
Terry:Yes. Yes. What's your did you know?
Skip:This is
Terry:not the last time
Skip:you're going to hear hear, about Trump, I'm sure, because we got an election year that's coming up. So and it's no. Listen, I believe that, and I keep saying I'm going to shut it down. I believe that we need to step up for what is righteous and what is right action, and we believe that this person's a criminal. So did you know, and I used to kinda like pope Francis.
Terry:I know. I know.
Skip:I thought he was gonna be progressive, and and yeah. Okay. He is, I I guess in some ways, but he's still behind the times with gay priests. So in a closed door conversation, I think it was a group of bishops, he used a gay term. Right.
Skip:He used a gay slur Yep. Which is I think it's let me let me get this right because I don't know I don't know, Italian. I'm a try to say it. It's called faggotismus. Faggotismus, I guess.
Skip:Whatever. And which means faggot.
Terry:Right. Right.
Skip:And, you know, I learned long time ago being a minister, watch your mic. Your mic could be on. Watch who's gonna who's gonna Right. Be watching you. For me, this is really sad because we're we are trying to bridge gay people into their own spirituality, because we have a great article for pride that's coming out about that, about allowing gay people to be spiritual, and have their traditions, and you have the pope that's going to call out gay priests in a in a slur.
Skip:And not just when I when I heard that, I was like, really? We're back here. Mhmm. We're back here. Listen.
Terry:I am a firm believer, and and I hope y'all write in and and and be a part of the conversation with these things.
Skip:Please.
Terry:Keep subscribing, keep liking. We we talk about these things because we want to spark the conversation. Right?
Skip:Yeah.
Terry:We want folks to be educating themselves and be talking about these things. So I say this, let's be real, especially in, the Catholic religion. Right? I mean, in all religions, but, you know, there's so much homosexuality and LGBTQ folks and things that they have been doing against, you know, religion that's against the the bible and all these things. How dare you put things out there when you know good and well that y'all are not clean and in innocent and holier than thou.
Terry:Right? So how dare you create this negative space and these use these connotations that against a certain, community and demographic when you are no saint.
Skip:You have
Terry:literally done things against human beings that are against the law. Put your behind in jail right along with Cheeto. How about that?
Skip:How about You know, we talked about this. I think it was episode 2. It was, rise in harmony. We talked about the marginalization in music industry. The marginalization in the churches, episode 3.
Skip:Go back y'all and listen to that episode. It's one of my favorite episodes that we did. I believe that this is a time that we have to have more inclusive language in everything we do, especially if we're in leadership. You're the pope Agreed. Of the biggest churches out there.
Skip:You you, the grand pope. That's right. And and you and and I don't care if you this is in your heart, but when you're in public and you feel safe and you wanna use that, you're thinking that nobody's gonna hear you. Well, hello. We did.
Terry:We all heard. Yep. Loud and clear.
Skip:My question to you. These damn apologies after people got caught. How how do you feel about these stupid apologies after people get caught?
Terry:I agree that, we all make mistakes.
Skip:We're
Terry:there perfection does not exist. We all make mistakes. And what for me, if you come back immediately and own up to your mistake, you know, I'm so sorry. Blah blah blah. It's not how it whatever the case may be.
Terry:Right? Don't wait until your PR person steps in and and says, you've gotta retract this. You've gotta make this right. It's your public persona. They're gonna crucify you Don't wait until somebody steps up to say, let's fix this because you should not have done this in the first place.
Terry:You have to take the ownership and step up with your tail between your legs and say it was a slip or Freudian slip. I don't know. Well, you've gotta own it and then come back and say I'd love to hear you're you're apologizing. Right? Don't wait till somebody else comes to you, calls you, your people call the people and say, oh, we gotta correct this.
Terry:That's not that's not authentic apology.
Skip:You know, here's the thing, and I I love this. I I gotta do a little bit more research on the spoke person. His name is Matteo Bruni, issued a statement.
Terry:Of course.
Skip:But I wanna go a little bit deeper on this. Was it somebody in their camp that told the Italian news of what because that was a closed meeting. So somebody was queer up in there when going, uh-uh. You think you're getting away with that? Correct.
Skip:I'm gonna tell somebody. I'm gonna tell them. Oh, that's the problem.
Terry:You never know who's in earshot of when you're when you're using that microphone. Right? So you never know who you're going to offend. And just because you're the pope, who your standards are you're held to an even higher standard.
Skip:Hello? Hello? That's the first thing you learn in in seminary. First thing you you learn in seminary and in in ministerial school. You you now live in a in a official people watching because of that title.
Skip:That's where I almost and I forgot to take my title off. I went well, not you know, I normally just use Skip Pinnings because I don't know what I'm gonna say up in here. And I would be, oh, but, you know but
Terry:just say that there's already a couple of pastors, secular pastors right now that are in some trouble.
Skip:You know. You know. You know. But here no. There is I'm not gonna call anybody out because I I don't believe in in it's I I heard it's true.
Terry:We call them Ian. That's what we do.
Skip:I'm not gonna call anybody in. I'm not gonna out anybody. But one of my favorite favorite favorite gospel singers, and it's been rumored for years, and he's a bishop, and I listen to his songs every day. And, you know, it's it's hitting the surface again. So here's my thing.
Skip:If you're a Christian, which, you know, I I I I'm a universalist. People ask me, what are you? I'm a universalist. I pull from Christianity, from Buddhism, from Hindu. I pull from the Dao.
Skip:I pull from world religion, and I believe it all comes from the universe. That's why I call myself a universalist. But if you're a Christian and you believe that only thing you have to do is accept Christ as your savior, whatever you want, then everything else because everything else should not be on the table. We should, like, stop bringing up people's sexual, you know, their their their activities and saying, oh, you sinning you this and this and this and this. I'm like, but you just said the only thing you gotta do is accept Jesus Christ as your savior, and you're gonna boom.
Skip:Well, hello. Something's happening here. There is a disconnect. Right. And listen.
Skip:I'm a put up right now my Yeah. I'll put it up there and Right. You know.
Terry:I don't
Skip:know her.
Terry:I don't know her.
Skip:I love you, brother. That was a heat that did you know, Charles?
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Skip:Thank you, Chad.
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Terry:It's pride month.
Skip:I know. Right? But let's check Y'all called it. Shout out to them. Shout out to them.
Skip:And I can't wait to meet them because I think I'm gonna claim it. Labor Day, weekend, where we gonna be?
Terry:We working on it. We working on it. We working on doing some things in Palm Springs.
Skip:We know and getting us some more in a little bit. Yeah. Few more advertisers, investors coming up, so stay tuned. Stay
Terry:tuned. Alright, brother, man. What we getting into next?
Skip:Well, it's the grits. And in the grits, we're talking about this is pride month, so thank you pride month. I think this history of pride, it's very important to me, but we'll talk about this a little later. I've gone to so many prides in in in my life that I just don't go to prides or get excited about pride again, but I am like because I have a whole pride t shirt line. This one says love is love is love, shameless plug.
Skip:Go to skipjennings.com. Get your love is love is love t shirt. You can get it right there or go to the wakeshop.org. You can get your love is love t shirt anyway. Same.
Skip:I I love it, but I love the history of pride. I love what it means. I don't know about you. The history of pride, is that important to you?
Terry:Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. I'm a firm believer in thoroughly understanding our history and every aspects of it, whether it's African American history, which, let's be clear, is American history people.
Skip:American history. That part.
Terry:Right? African American history, American history, LGBTQ history, which I think so often goes under the radar and doesn't get the just to that it that it needs. So pride does mean but here, I wanna be clear about something. I wanna be clear about something. Pride for me does not end and start in the month of June.
Skip:That part Right? Did you go
Terry:asked me a moment ago where does that confidence come from? That confidence also comes because of a tremendous amount of pride in what it has taken for me to stand as a black gay man in a society that still continues to try to take away my rights, still tries to treat me like a second class citizen, that's where that pride and that confidence comes from.
Skip:And also too, it's very important that this pride season is something that should be carried over throughout the year. And one thing that I am really very, very clear about is I'm sick of these corporate organizations that will put the rainbow flag over their logo once a year in June. Yep. So, Ron, now you're saying that you wanna be a corporate ally. I call them corporate allies.
Skip:So you have what what are you doing in those last parts of the the other parts of the year where you have trans brothers and sisters being killed? Are you out there on the front lines with us? Are you just going to be because it's trendy in June. But, you know, I'm calling you in, but I thank you for that one month. It's like Black History Month.
Skip:Right. Why McDonald's are you celebrating Black History Month and and and it's the shortest month of the year and you oh, come on now. I'm just
Terry:That part?
Skip:Oh, oh, oh. So what I wanted to do is give you a little bit of rundown. I have my notes right here. Early activism in 1950. Believe this this was actually happening from 1950 to sixties before we even had the stone wall riots.
Skip:It came out of of of a time where queer people were being beat up. They were going to bars. They were being dragged out. They would get in the paddy wagon, and they would be beat up in the paddy wagon by police officers. And people were getting tired of being beat for loving who you love.
Skip:They were getting tired of having to be in the closet, so to speak, but in the shadow.
Terry:Right.
Skip:And in New York, it was a huge number of gay gay, black, white, everyone's being killed. Men, women were being bashed on the streets of the village. So that all was going on. That's part of the history. Like, the civil rights movement came out of the desperation of giving us the right to vote and to have a word.
Skip:This came out of a very sad time in in in the 50th in the sixties. And, you know, in that time too even before that, people were being murdered legally like in, you know, in in Nazi Germany. All over parts of the world. People, you know, they used to hang people like you and me.
Terry:Right. Absolutely. Absolutely. And I think the worst part, and thank you, doctor reverend Skip Jennings for that history.
Skip:It's a good doctor reverend.
Terry:The professor. We'll call him the professor.
Skip:Hey.
Terry:Thank you for that. No. I think the worst part about this is the fact that this was going on, as you said, in the fifties sixties. The fact that it's 2,024, and we are still fighting the exact same fight.
Skip:That's right.
Terry:So a lot of times and and people that I'm in the inner circles with, we all struggle with this from time to time, right, and have these conversations around. The fact that we still have to bring this up, the fact that in our current cities that we all reside in, there's still a level of racism. There's still a level level of hatred. There's still a level of injustices and murders for the trans brothers and sisters that you just mentioned. There's still murders for LG for for gay men, things like that in certain parts of the world and the country.
Terry:The fact that we are still dealing with this completely combats the fact that this country likes to say we've made so much progress, and there's so much improvement, and there's so much this since when, boo? Yeah. Since when?
Skip:But this is what happened.
Terry:This conversation, then the the progress haven't truly happened.
Skip:And this is where I believe they I'm I'm gonna say the white, you know, men, mostly white men, I hear that conversation from that, oh, you've come so far, black people, women, gay people, because you're afraid that we're taking something away from you when we're speaking equality. You're you're you're you're you're afraid that we're taking your little edge. Right. Because if we start at the race, you had a long road that you had before we could even start the race.
Terry:Right.
Skip:So, you know And
Terry:it's an inferior complex. Right? You afraid that we're gonna surpass you or we're gonna take things from you, job opportunities, money. You're there there's a a fear. Cha, I'm gonna get going.
Terry:Let me stop. So it it because we talked about religion. Religion is truly like, there's a level of fear based in the religion. Right? And and folks that like to use that as a fear complex.
Terry:Right?
Skip:Yeah.
Terry:There's fear in in what we're talking about now with respects to racism and having to fight for equality. You're scared that the level of differences and people are gonna surpass you or they wanna take from you. This ain't a competition. We're not in the sports, honey. This is not a board game.
Terry:Right? This is life.
Skip:It it's it's powerful. It's powerful when you really get to get to look at the root of this, this fear of losing something. Mhmm. But in 1969, and I was, let's see. 6 I was 5 years old.
Skip:In 1969, I know some queen says, uh-uh, not tonight. Not tonight. June June 28th 1969, Stonewall riots happened. And so I always have a special place for my trans brothers and sisters, the drag queens, because they were the ones who kicked this kicked it off. Right.
Skip:And said, no. We are not. Can you imagine what it was like on that night in in the village? What was that? I mean, you
Terry:I I cannot. I I can't imagine. I, obviously, have studied, you know, a lot of African American history, a lot of LGBTQ history. I used to especially in the San Francisco Bay Area, I used to guest lecture in the school district and at universities around LGBTQ history and issues and and everyday life and things like that. So this will always, you know, speak to my heart and who I am as a human being because I believe that we have to continue to, celebrate the history and understand the history in order to know how to navigate our present and move forward in our future.
Skip:Yeah.
Terry:Right? So I feel like we have to make sure that we're not forgotten, and the folks like Marsha p Johnson is not Yes. Forgotten. Absolutely. We have to continue to celebrate those who have a lot paved the way and allowed us to be in the space we are.
Terry:This is what's so fascinating to Right? And and sorry, I because I I will be that controversial person,
Skip:and call you Ian.
Terry:You're loud. Right? You're loud. Listen. The fact that we still have so much hatred and bullying and racism, specifically from gay white men, around and in these smaller towns and things like that, You are here.
Terry:You are allowed to do what you're doing because of a black trans woman. You are here because somebody fought for your ass to be here.
Skip:His name is Terry Dyer, y'all.
Terry:Look. I said what I said today. Right?
Skip:They're gonna get a lot of emails in. You get a lot of emails in.
Terry:It has been that kind of week.
Skip:I love it when
Terry:I said, you have the privilege and the autonomy to do what you are doing now, but that does not give you the right to turn around and and bully and do what you're out here, especially, like, equality equality groups, equality organizations, Equality Florida, HRC. You are in that space because of people like Marsha p Johnson. You're in that space because drag queens fought for your right to be in this space now. So how dare you now say, oh, I don't like those people. But we are you.
Terry:You are us. Child, let me stop. Like, they ain't ready. Let me stop. Let me stop.
Skip:I'm just I'm sitting here. I'm going okay.
Terry:Let me stop.
Skip:It's okay.
Terry:So you was like it. I just I I racism.
Skip:I know you do.
Terry:Like, it just
Skip:As we say in in church, take a breath. Take a holy breath.
Terry:Oh, she can breathe.
Skip:Breathe breathe. It was a year later it was a year later in 1970, we had our 1st march, and that was not sanctioned. That was like, we doing it. We're gonna have a gay pride march. We're marching through the streets, and that really kinda launched where we are today.
Skip:Expansion of of of pride events throughout throughout the world literally came from that 1st pride march. So San Francisco, one of the greatest pride month marches I ever have experienced was in San Francisco. I mean, and I've gone to so many prides when I was in my younger age. And why do it was a thing. We went to pride, went to the pure dance.
Skip:New York City's Dykes on Bikes, man, started off the roar.
Terry:Oh, yes.
Skip:And and I remember, in New York City, it was in the height of the AIDS epidemic, and we were, I'm a part of, you know, I'm a part of, of queer nation. I was a part of, HRC, a part of a lot of different movements. And I remember we did a lie in, and it was all planned that at a certain time, we all just laid on the floor of the parade on on on the ground. We're marching the parade, and we just laid on the ground, and we just laid there. We laid there for I think it was 5 minutes, and it was it was so quiet.
Skip:And I remember how the impact of what I was feeling in that moment. I had a myriad of different experiences. It was fear that I was gonna die, At that time, I, you know, I didn't know I was HIV positive. I wasn't HIV. I didn't I didn't convert until 96, and this is well earlier than this.
Skip:I remember tears running down my eyes and going, okay. This is so needed, and I'm proud to be out here to be able to do this. And, you know, it was it it was a really interesting moment and shift in my life. Pride brought me to a place of who I am today. Yeah.
Skip:And so wow. And then from the pride movement comes the quilt. And the quilt being shown during pride events. And just every time I saw the quilt, it just oh, oh, oh.
Terry:Well, I also think that, pride means different things to different folks. Right? And I and I what I hope and pray is that in this day and age, people really take ownership in whatever pride they feel and allow that authenticity to be shown, you know, in in whatever forms of pride they like to to display. You know, we were talking about corporations and allyship, with respects to to pride. And, you know, we see it all over.
Terry:It's become a phenomenon to where it's money driven.
Skip:Right?
Terry:Yeah. You know, organizations and and I love my, but let's be real. Like, they put the rainbow colors all over their in their stores and in merchandise and all those sorts of things. I know other department stores and things do the same. That's all good and well.
Terry:It's great. It is a step, and we need that step. Right? But understand that l g p b LGBTQ people are not just present from June 1st to June 30th. That's not how that works.
Terry:Right? So
Skip:How do we invite our these corporate allies? I'm calling them corporate allies. They wanna be allies, but they're not really sure if they're doing it right. How do we get them more involved throughout the year? What what what would you have them do to really show up?
Skip:I know what I want them to do.
Terry:I think they need to understand that representation matters throughout the entire year. Right? So we need to see LGBTQ folks in your space. You need to be providing resource groups, employee resource groups that are focused to black, brown, women, Asian, LGBTQ. Right?
Terry:We need you need to represent every every demographic, every folks, because guess what? Those folks are spending money in your space.
Skip:Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Right?
Terry:So And I that's
Skip:what I'm I think part of this too is we talk about making a a a difference on this plan, and I think it's so important that we look at this. I believe there are things that we can be doing, these corporate allies that goes further than saying, hello. I'm, you know, I I'm I'm an ally. Look at our colors. I'm gonna put out a t shirt that says, I'm with the queers.
Skip:Right. How about taking some of those $1,000,000,000 funds that you have creating a space for homeless LGBTQA plus youth. That is the number one youth that's on the streets right now are are are queer brothers and sisters. How about getting those funds? Because people think that the AIDS epidemic is over.
Skip:It's not. We just learned how to live with it. Back in the day when we were trying to get, you know, Reagan to say the word and act up. We were doing everything, and then we got the cocktails. And somewhere, we forgot that we still have something's going on.
Skip:That's another show that's coming up for pride. We're gonna have that, but I'm just saying that these corporate allies need to be putting their money where their mouth is to support us fully. Not just one of them. Our health care, our, you know, our families, places to live. Where Woody, how are you making a difference on the planet for everyone?
Terry:Absolutely. Oh. Absolutely. I I think this is so incredibly important, and I think in this day and age, as we are incredibly uncertain of where we are going politically and
Skip:who's gonna
Terry:office, later this year. I think all those sorts of things to me, they're all wrapped up together. It's a vicious cycle. And for me, when I watch society as a whole, I'm always thinking to myself, when is it going to stop? Right?
Terry:I get, the Bishop that you talked about. That is a what what the bishop and Diddy and all these people have been doing, right, or accused allegedly of doing. Right? That has been a cultural thing that has been happening in this space for years. Right?
Skip:You better say allegedly, brother, until
Terry:I know. I'm
Skip:sorry. I forget.
Terry:I think it's happened, but that's just me. That's just my opinion. Right? But I allegedly happened. Right?
Terry:That's a cultural thing that black culture tends to like to sweep under the rug. That don't exist. That don't happen. But then you've got these folks that can't be them their authentic selves because of family, because of cultural upbringing, because of money, they wanna be famous. Well, you can't have a gay passer be, like, the head of, you know, black religion in the world.
Terry:Right? Like, let all that stuff go. Like, we are really spiting ourselves constantly over and over and over because we're afraid to be authentically ourselves. We're afraid that the Bible that has been rewritten. Listen.
Terry:I'm gonna keep going and going.
Skip:That that is such another show because we gotta get in some glitter in. We gotta go deep This is why we doing this show This is why we're we want to raise up these voices and have this conversation So the glitter of all this pride and and and I love that we get to talk about the fun side. If someone's listening, you know, Terry, and you've done mini prides, and I've done mini prides, and it's their 1st pride, and they're they they hit our show, they're going, oh my god, I found this show, and I'm listening. I'm I'm I'm listening under my covers. I don't want my mama to hear or whatever.
Skip:What would you tell someone who's making the decision to go out to Pride for the very first time?
Terry:Just be safe. Just be safe. Just be safe. It Yeah. Pride as, you know, as we said, moments ago, pride a lot of prides have turned into very, like, commercialism.
Terry:Right? It's about it's about money, it's about, you know, bars and clubs and night you know, all that
Skip:kind of stuff.
Terry:Nightlife, it's about the drinking, it's about the partying. So often, I sit back and watch folks at Pride, and and it gets to me sometimes. Right? Because I'm like, you don't even know what you're celebrating. You just needed it.
Terry:You just want an excuse to have a cocktail and drink and get sloppy drunk and wear half clothes, you know, and
Skip:get me.
Terry:That's all fine. That's all fine. Right? I'm not looking away. No.
Skip:No. No.
Terry:No. Do you do you do you do Understand why you are there and why you're able to do that because of that. You know what I mean? Like, understand why you now have the space, to do that. And there's a lot of prides that have been shut down.
Terry:We talked about this a few episodes ago with, what's happening in, Nashville and different, you know, folks cities where they're they're shutting down the prides, you know, because of sex supposedly, allegedly sexual connotation from drag queens and all these other, these other things. Right? Just be safe.
Skip:Be safe.
Terry:Be safe. Be safe. Have fun.
Skip:But be safe. And and so, you know, I I love that you brought this up because I've watched in prides as well watching these young kids that are on some drug or somehow listen. No judgment. Listen. I have my time where I can't even tell you the drugs I took.
Skip:Oh, they're here. You know, it's And so now that I'm here, I I heard that. Now that I'm here and, you know, I am the elder, I am I am the mentor, you gotta really be safe. You gotta really honor while you're there. I remember one pride.
Skip:I was there. I got a chance to meet little Kim, and it was a with Hollywood pride. And the person I was dating then, he was one of the organizers for, you know, for what's what's Hollywood pride, and I got a chance to meet little Kim. And it was just at this point of empowerment. It was just so because I love me little Kim.
Skip:I love me some little Kim.
Terry:Yeah.
Skip:She's nasty. She's wannabe, but I love her anyway. And, yes, I'm a minister rev who listens to little Kim.
Terry:I said,
Skip:anyway She's a real person. Okay. Ends. But then I saw the shift where I was watching more of our young brothers and sisters on on just just really gone out of their heads during probably barely could walk, so drunk or this. And I remember this is very important to to acknowledge during the, COVID, it there was a pride that didn't happen.
Skip:The following year when pride did happen, there were more ODs. There were more Yeah. Working disorders. There were more people that were that were, you know, were arrested. I think people are just trying to free themselves, trying to release, but you gotta remember the reason why we're there.
Skip:We're celebrating. And I listen. The last thing I want is for people to see me being arrested, and what that's not pride.
Terry:Right. Right. Right. What's prideful about being on the street and and up chucking in front of everybody. Right?
Terry:On the street. What what is prideful
Skip:I didn't say up chucking. What is oh, up chucking. I thought you said uptucking. Oh. It's like, what's an uptuck?
Skip:Is that a drag thing where you tuck the other way? Uptucking. I think I think I'm gonna use that. Have you upped up today? Have you, how do
Terry:you skip. Uptuck Jennings.
Skip:She gonna uptuck, y'all. I've been uptucking. I really thought you said uptucking.
Terry:I just think about those things, and I'm like, where's the where's the pride in that? Yeah. Right? Where's the, like, have your fun? Do you boo.
Terry:However, keep it cute and classy. Keep it cute
Skip:and classy. And classy. So what is your favorite part of pride, though? Because there is some really great incredible elements. Me, it's the colors.
Skip:I love our rainbow, and and most people don't know. Here's my Hold on. A rainbow t shirt. Love is love is love. Did you know that the rainbow flag is based on the chakra system?
Skip:Okay. Here comes rev skip. The chakra system is energy zones, and each energy zone from the root, which is the base of the spine to the top of your head, there's 7, and they have different colors. And it starts with red, then orange, yellow, green, and moves into blue. And moves into indigo, and then to violet.
Skip:These are the colors of the so some queen who is into spirituality said, okay. Let's make the the but what I do love though, it's a new flag which has the rainbow, and then it has pink, then it has brown. It has all different other colors too. I'm like, okay. This is really dope.
Skip:I like the new inclusive flag.
Terry:We have I listen. I will say this. Honey, us gays, we will turn everything into a moneymaker, into Listen. We got a flag now for everything, for every inclusive, every demographic. Like, we got flags with hands and fists on them.
Terry:We got flags with paws on them. We got the trans flag. Now, like, we got flags We have the
Skip:bear flag. Do you see the flags on the the the with the with the pole. It was like a bear in the middle of the thing. I'm going,
Terry:saw the weather community flag. Charming everything now.
Skip:But do you remember I'm gonna date myself again, and that's okay. I I know I'm the older brother here. You remember back in the day when you wore maybe you don't. Remember the hankies you wore in what side of the pocket? And if you want the right pocket and this and no.
Skip:You just you just awful sometimes. I just want to shake you sometime. You were just wrong. You're just wrong.
Terry:I remember a time where people did it. I think they still do it to a degree, but I was not around when that stuff started.
Skip:Lord of you. Yeah. Sorry. I'm so old. Sorry.
Skip:That's so crazy.
Terry:I will be turning 44 and still being fabulous in a couple of weeks.
Skip:There you go. There you go. And then, you know, especially during this time, and I believe that, you know, our older you know, the the mentors of the group, the the the the mature audiences are thinking that pride is not for them any longer because of what it's changed into. And so as we're embracing our our our our place as the mentors, as the elders, we still have to get out there. And so I'm going to, you know, I'm going to make it.
Skip:I'm going to say because I don't normally go to prides. And I did go to pride about 2 years ago because our the community, CSL that I was a senior minister, we walked in the parade. Last year, I was in Bali, so I couldn't go. I am gonna go this year because I think it's very important for grits and glitter to be out there. So Grits and Glitter is gonna be out there making our own we're here.
Skip:We're queer. You got a podcast. Hello. Hello. So we're gonna be out there, and maybe we need to get some grits and glitter t shirts or I don't know.
Skip:But we can do that. We can do that. So but I'm looking forward to I'm looking forward to hanging with you and seeing, you know, and seeing what the pride's all about, and you have some incredible things that are coming up for pride. What are you doing? Where are the places you're gonna be dropping in for pride?
Terry:I do. There's a lot that's happening this year in the month of June here in South Florida. So for pride, I will be out. You know, a couple of my clients that I work with, they're gonna have booths out. They're gonna be present.
Terry:I'll be stopping by and say, hey, with them, for a little bit. One of my closest friends here throws a a pride party in the afternoon, so I'll be hitting up his spot. Shout out to him. I'm gonna be everywhere. I'm gonna be everywhere.
Skip:I'm gonna
Terry:get gonna
Skip:go to hunters? Shout out to hunters.
Terry:Yes. Those are people. Yeah. Probably. Probably.
Terry:You know, for me, you know, I'm all about pride, most memories and, you know, best memories and things like that. Pride is just being with my friends. Pride is really just having a good key game time with my friends. It's not about, I'm also not that that type of person that's like, let me just go hang out at the bar, sit in the barber to cocktail, just stand around. But I can do that at home for free.
Skip:We call that the s and m the s and m bars, stand and model bars.
Terry:Hello? No. I can model my black behind in my beard on the couch with a cocktail if I choose to.
Skip:No need to.
Terry:I'm just saying, but I'm not old. But but it's really about being it's about being with my friends, for for pride. That's that's what the memory is for me. And, I love this year, Stonewall Pride. Shout out to hot spots.
Terry:It's happening out in television. Some of our community partners as well. They're doing, like, a glow, theme night for the parade and all those sorts of things. So that's all gonna be fun and really cool. So I'm excited for that.
Terry:A few days later, there's a tremendous amount of events throughout, the day on Juneteenth, which
Skip:is, you know, that's,
Terry:to me, that's still a part of pride. That's just, you know, 4 days later, 4 days later or whatnot. I'll be celebrating a special day, that day. But there's a lot of events on June 19th 19th as well here, and then a week later is is my concert. So Absolutely.
Terry:And what is your
Skip:concert called? What?
Terry:My concert is called Being Black and Gay, presented by Hunters Nightclub. Yes. Hello. Yes.
Skip:And we're gonna be on, queer nightly news coming up, you and me?
Terry:We are. Queer news tonight.
Skip:Queer news tonight, but I learned their names.
Terry:I'll Yes.
Skip:Have it Shout out to you. Queer nightly news.
Terry:Right. Like, this thing's CNN, girl. We're nightly news.
Skip:It is on NBC. Are we not gonna be on ABC?
Terry:I mean, someday, you know, we could be let's manifest that. Hello?
Skip:What I wanna do is give it go ahead.
Terry:Who who's who's making a difference for you as we talk about all this pride stuff and Right. And as we celebrate in the month of June and, again, you and I, we we are firm believers in celebrating all year long. But, specifically, in this month, who who's making a difference for you?
Skip:Before we jump into who's making a difference, I'm gonna and I'm gonna lead right into who making a difference. I wanna give a shout out to places all over the world where you can go to Pride, Sao Paulo's, have their pride on June, 1st. Pride in in, in Philadelphia, that's happening June 2nd. LA pride is actually June 8th 9th. New Orleans.
Skip:Hey, New Orleans. It's June 8th. Baltimore pride is June 10th through 16th. Our own pride is going to be, June 15th, and that's Wilton Manors, Stonewall Pride. The trisate black pride who's out on the woah.
Skip:Woah. Woah. Woah. Woah. That is June 13th through 16th.
Skip:And I think we said New York pride is going to be at the end of the month. Nashville pride is June 22nd to 23rd. My birthday. My birthday. My bad.
Skip:It's always the very end. They shut down the pride, season, which is June 29th to 30th. So we got a lot of lot of events out there, so I want y'all to get out there. So my who's making a difference is someone that I've always admired, and I've loved how she's blown up in the recent time is, Laverne Cox. And I know.
Skip:Right? But what can we say? Laverne Cox. What I love about first of all, she has a great documentary on Netflix. Did you see it called Disclosure?
Skip:Absolutely. And it's how, Hollywood has represented the trans community in in in depicting of the trans experience, the good, the bad, and the ugly. Although there is no ugly in in in in in the family of God. Hallelujah. You see how I did that?
Skip:I brought it right back to church. You see how I did that? They're no ugly. Anyway, I love what she's done. I love her as an actress.
Skip:I can't even tell you when we talk about Orange is the New Black. She was my favorite character. Yes. She was actually the first trans woman to be nominated for an Emmy. Absolutely.
Skip:She's blown up. She had a show a talk show that was on Peacock about the queer experience, which I I absolutely love. But off camera, she's been an activist for trans rights, for transgender. She's been an activist for drag queens. She has been a vocal and out there in the forefront, and I love she does all the red carpets now for the Oscars.
Skip:And when she shows up, I don't know who has a glam squad. Her glam's damn. I'm just gonna God. Hers Her her Oh, I have, like, been, like, oh my god. She is her glam squad.
Skip:So she's a fascinista. Yes. She is brilliant. She did. Keep making a difference because she's won the GLAAD award, GLAAD media award.
Skip:Yeah. Just her being out there unapologetically black and trans and queer and fabulous for me, for pride, because every pride episode, we're doing many more pride episodes coming up. I want to make a difference with someone who's out there, who's making a difference in the pride community. That's it. That's who's making a difference for me.
Terry:Did you know that she has a degree in opera?
Skip:I do. Yeah.
Terry:So I got to interview her on stage, last year at a gala. It was basically and so many people said they felt like they were an audience member watching our talk show. Like, it was amazing. But we made
Skip:her on the talk show, maybe.
Terry:Right. And we had a little podcast. Playing some opera together. Like, she's a
Skip:good to me. She's amazing. Lord, have mercy. Who's making a difference for you?
Terry:So who's making a difference for me is an incredible organization in South Florida that is celebrating their 42nd year of making an impact in the LGBTQ plus community. And I wanna also state that before I introduce them that not only are they supporting LGBTQ individuals, they take everybody. So they help everybody. So if you are straight, black, blue, green, Barney, they don't care. You need help, they got
Skip:your back.
Terry:So I wanna shout out, an incredible organization that I strongly believe is making a difference in our community, and their name is Pride Lines. They are based in Miami yes. Based in Miami Dade County, and they provide health and wellness services to the LGBTQ plus community, again, for 42 years strong. Regardless regardless of socioeconomic status, they are giving getting individuals into health care services. Other programs include mental health, which is big in our society right now, therapy, social support groups, senior groups.
Terry:That to me is amazing. Focusing on our aging population.
Skip:Why did you look at me when you said that? Girl. Girl. You ain't that far.
Terry:I'm just kidding. I love you. Senior senior groups, housing, and so much more. To know PRidelines is is really to witness witness, as we've been talking this whole entire episode, that's PRIDE.
Skip:Yeah.
Terry:They do so much work, in community engagement and development that showcases a tremendous level of pride. They are led by a new fearless fearless executive director called, named doctor Edward Summers, who will be on our show very, very soon. And I saw I any Yes.
Skip:You got the body of light.
Terry:I'm like, what?
Skip:We saw him in the neighborhood, in the gayborhood. I was like, damn, that's under all
Terry:that? Well So you missed the event the other night that we had with when we I went to with them. Honey, she came in in this shirt that was little see through holes in it. She said, it's hot. It's hot.
Terry:Who cares? It's my event, and I'm the executive director. That was like, it's hot.
Skip:I love it. I love it. You could be that fabulous and rock the house. So PrideLine's we will definitely put PrideLine's, email information in our program notes, so look for that.
Terry:Absolutely.
Skip:That's powerful powerful. Boom. Pride Month. We are here. Here it is.
Skip:Oh, no. We're here. We're here. We're clear. We're here.
Skip:This is episode number 9. We have another one coming up. All month long, we're going to be highlighting pride, episodes for the pride month of listen. Everything we do is pride. Everything we do is black, black, black, black, black.
Skip:In fact Negative. What? You know, people go, were you at a gay bar the other night? It's like every bar I'm in is a gay bar because I was there.
Terry:Hello? Because I
Skip:was there. You know you know, so, I love you, brother. Thank you so much for being on the journey with us. And y'all don't forget, please reach out to us. On our email, it is what is it, Terry?
Terry:Grits and glitter. You do always ask me. Gritsandglitterpod@gmail.com.
Skip:Oh, I see. Alright. That's a good job. We would be in a conversation. Channels, chat.
Skip:We could do a we could do a marketing conversation with people going, Terry, what's our email? Well, you're the younger one, so you need to remember all this stuff. Oh, thanks. Thanks. Thanks.
Skip:And also, please follow us on social media, y'all. We are Yes. Atgritsandglitterpod. And our website should be up very, very soon, which is gritsandglitterpod, and it's gonna be fabulous. Make sure you love and like us because that's how we get the information out there.
Skip:We gotta share share the love, man. Tell people about us. You know?
Terry:Yes.
Skip:And oh, article. We have this is our 6th article. Oh. Out out to outsfl. And if you go to outsfl.org, you'll be able to see or it's dotcom.
Skip:I think it's dotcom. Dotcom. And you'll be able to look up Grits and Glitter column, and we are doing some incredible things. I am so incredibly excited when we could sit down and we come up and we have our conversation. What we gonna talk about?
Skip:What we're gonna do? And I love I love the articles so y'all can read read what we're putting out there as well. Love it. Love it. Love it.
Skip:Love it. Love it.
Terry:Alright. There's another one. And another one.
Skip:There's another one. Hey, y'all. Remember, be kind to people because kindness is what, Terry? It's free. It's free.
Skip:It's free. Hey, y'all. We love you. We'll see you or you'll hear us or go oh, go to YouTube. Go to YouTube.
Terry:Yes.
Skip:Join our YouTube page and you can get all our YouTube episodes as well. So we're on there. I love you, brother.
Terry:Love you too. See y'all soon.
Skip:You soon. Peace and blessings. Comment wherever you listen to your podcast.
